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Amelia Appointment - making it possible for different customers to book same time slots
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  • Espen Klaseie started the conversation

    Hello Amelia support,

    One of my other colleagues have been in touch with you regarding sukkegard.no where we are using Amelia Appointments for a center where we have capacity for 6 customers (chairs) at a time in one room. this means we want to be able to use Amelia for different customers to be able to book and pay 2 hr sessions at the same time. We have set up the plugin with one Employee and services that are able to take max 6 people. It works fine if one customer books up to 6 people, but two different customers can't book the same 2 hr slot even though there are plenty of chairs left. It works fine if everyone books for a group but not if 2 or more individuals book for themselves only. Is it only possible if we set up 6 employees to do this?  If that is the case we would probably lose the option for customers to book for more than one person. Is there any work around this? Appreciate your time.

    Thanks Espen (and Nya)


  •  2,498
    Aleksandar replied

    Hello Espen (and Nya).

    Thank you for reaching out to us.

    One employee can only provide a single appointment, so that is the issue you're experiencing. Regardless how many people book the appointment, the employee will be assigned to that appointment only, and will no longer be able to provide other services or appointments.

    Since you're a Pro user, you can utilize Resources that'd depend on the number of people. In short - you need to enable this slider when creating a resource:

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    So, your services can keep the Maximum Capacity of 6 people, but you will need to add 5 more employees. When you create a shared resource and enable this slider, when a total of 6 people book, the time slot will close.

    Let me know if there's anything else I can do to help.

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  • Espen Klaseie replied

    Hi Aleksandar,

    That is great news. We are relieved. I am trying to set it up now. But just need a little more guidance. When I set up 6 employees, they will all pop up in the booking calendar, how will folks know which one has available slots, not sure I understand the logic. I have worked with resources in woocommerce and that works great, but here where it is all built around employees and not the services, I am not sure how it will be user-friendly for our customers. Can you explain a little more how the resources feature work with packages and services once I have set up all the employees? We don't have 6 employees, so we'll have to set up 6 Espen accounts and it'll look weird in booking calendar for our customers. Can we hide those accounts? Thanks. Espen and Nya

  •  2,498
    Aleksandar replied

    Hello again.

    You can create dummy employee accounts that will just be used to provide availability. If you're using Gmail, you can use the same account with a small workaround.

    For example [email protected] for Employee 1, [email protected] for Employee 2, [email protected] for Employee 3, and so on. So all emails will end up in [email protected]'s inbox. There's a chance that all "+" emails will end up in Spam, but once you mark them as "Not Spam", they should move to your inbox.

    Then, when you access Amelia/Customize, you can choose the form you have on the front-end, and disable the employee selection. For example, in the new Step-by-Step booking form:

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    I hope this helps!

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  • Espen Klaseie replied

    Hi Aleksandar,

    Thank you for the info re turning off employees. Now how do I set up the extra employees? Can I copy everything from my primary employee? And will customers still be able to book for a group as well? I am working on a live site, so I want to make sure I don't mess anything up while reconfiguring it. That is why I am asking all these questions, I can't play around with the site and I don't have the opportunity to create a staging site. I couldn't find any documentation on this specific area, unless I missed it.

    Thanks again.

    Nya

  • Espen Klaseie replied

    Hi Aleksandar,

    I think I managed to set it up correctly now.

    I set up the 5 new Amelia employees that are available from 9-17 and I turned resources on under Services and set it at 6 chairs for the 9-17 sessions and for all employees. I went into the calendar to book a time slot where I know there are already 3 persons booked (august 8 at 14) and I was able to book for a group of 3 but not a group of 4. I am attaching a screenshot, if you could kindly check it's look right. Is there for instance anything I have to keep in mind with notifications going to both customer and employee - I am forwarding the different employee emails to my primary email address. Thanks for all your assist, it's been most helpful. Nya and Espen

    Attached files:  Screen Shot 2023-08-04 at 11.17.34 AM.png

  •  2,498
    Aleksandar replied

    Hey Espen

    I'm glad to hear that you were able to configure this. It looks fine as far as I can tell, and if you were able to book for 3 people, but not for 4 - it sounds like you configured it correctly.

    The emails for customers and the emails for employees are configured separately in Amelia/Notifications, but you can use the same template for both - that's on you to decide.

    Let me know if there's anything else I can do to help.

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  • Espen Klaseie replied

    Dear Aleksandar,

    Thanks again for your help with the email notifications which I can work on setting up tomorrow. We have a few more questions to get the plugin working the way we need it to work.

    1) The booking calendar doesn't load on the cell phone, I can go some of the way but when I reach the calendar overview to pick my date it doesn't show. You can tell it's trying to load. Can it be fixed by changing the css styles? It's probably an overflow issue. I found this style but .amelia-v2-booking #amelia-container .am-fs__main-content

    2) We have imported a bunch of user accounts (via registrationmagic) how do we make them customers in Amelia? Right now if I do a manual appointment, none of the subscribers we imported into wp show up when we do a search in the Amelia Customer field. I added the Amelia Customer role to one of the users, but it still doesn't show up. I searched for the name or the email address.

    3) Since we have Group services set up we don't need the Bring more people? functionality but now I can't turn it off. How do I turn it off under the regular services under the category dagstid?

    Thanks for your support, much appreciated.

    Espen and Nya

  •  1,177
    Uroš replied

    Hello Espen,

    Thank you for reaching back out to us.

    As Aleksandar is currently out of the office, I will fill in for him.

    1. What is the URL of the page with the calendar in it as I could not find it on your website?

    2. At the moment, you can import customers into Amelia by clicking on the following button on the Amelia/Customers page.

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    3. For that purpose, you can disable that option on the Amelia/Services/Duration & Pricing page.

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    Hope this helps you.

    Looking forward to your reply.


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    Uros Jovanovic
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  • Espen Klaseie replied

    Hi Uroš,

    Thanks for your reply.

    1) The calendar only shows up if you have an account with us. I thought maybe you could let me know where the css styling is located for the calendar. It's odd that it disappears on the phone. It looks like you already have an account with us login: TMSPlugins and using this email [email protected]
    https://sukkegard.no/booking/

    2) Problem isn't how to import the new users... it's to change their status so that they come up in Amelia... I tried changing the role of a user to Amelia customer, but it still doesn't show up, when we make a booking in Amelia from the backend. We have 150 subscribers loaded who are also customers, but they don't pop up - I tried email address, name. See screenshot.

    3) So I know where to turn it off, and I did turn it off, but it just comes back, when I go back into services. See last 3 screenshots.

    Appreciate your time. Hope we get it solved soon.

    Nya and Espen

    Attached files:  Screen Shot 2023-08-22 at 9.12.43 AM.png
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  • Espen Klaseie replied

    Another issue that has come up just now. When I go to Finance to create a coupon (I have enabled coupons under settings) the page stays on Please Wait (for more than a minute now) - I have tried in both Firefox and Chrome. I have refreshed my browser several times. I have to hit escape to get out. There is nothing wrong with my internet connection. And I am able to do other functions in Amelia. I wanted to create a coupon since we are having issues with the notifications. Apparently they are not reaching our customers and I need to test it without having to make a purchase. I can use the on-site function temporarily, but would like to be able to create coupons, so hope you can straighten that out as well. Thanks.

    Nya and Espen

    Attached files:  Screen Shot 2023-08-22 at 9.32.46 AM.png

  • Espen Klaseie replied

    Hello there again,

    I have looked into the issue with the notifications. So here is what is happening. I have now set up a cron task like you   suggest on your support page and it looks like it is set up correctly. When I go into Notifications to create a custom notification for my customers, I fill in all the data and hit create and it pops up in the left side. The minute I leave the notifications page and come back, the custom notification I set up disappears, a little like the issue I have with changing the 'bringing more people' functionality under services. I tell the Amelia plugin to make a change, but it doesn't stick. I'm guessing it's a plugin conflict, do you have any experience with this happening before? It's pretty serious when I can't change my settings. I hope there is a fix. Thanks. Espen and Nya

    Attached files:  Screen Shot 2023-08-22 at 10.53.26 AM.png
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  •  1,177
    Uroš replied

    Hello Espen,

    Thank you for reaching back out to us and for your patience.

    In regards to your last issue with the notifications, issues like this usually occur when there is a conflict either with the theme currently active on your website, or another plugin you have installed.

    Can you please change the theme and see if the issue is resolved? If not, then please deactivate all other plugins except for our plugin, refresh the page where the issue is, and see if it is resolved (it should be). If it is, then start activating other plugins one by one, and after each activation refresh the page to see if the issue reoccurred. Once it does reoccur, you will have found the plugin causing the issue.

    1. I clicked on the "Forgot password" and it did not lead me to the password reset page. Can you please set a password for me and provide me with it I will assist you with this and also the issue at point 3)

    2. At the moment, there is no option to create a customer in Amelia that way. You can only create it manually on the Amelia/Customers page, import it into Amelia, or by customers booking an appointment on the front end.

    In regards to the coupon issue, can you please let me know which version of the Amelia plugin you have installed on your website?

    Looking forward to your reply.


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  • Espen Klaseie replied

    Hi Uroš,

    Thanks for getting back to us.

    Ok yes, so you think it's a plugin conflict too. Right now the site is live, so I can't really start changing a lot of things. Do you know if you currently have issues with The Hello theme by Elementor 2.8.1?

    I have sent you a reset password email from WP to [email protected].

    The site is running version 6.4 of Amelia and WP version 6.3.

    One important thing, you haven't answered is that the booking calendar doesn't show up on the cell phone. Can you please help with that issue? I can't find the stylesheet that deals with the booking calendar. It's pretty important, we fix this issue. Once you can login, you can see it for yourself.

    Thanks. Appreciate your time.

    Espen and Nya

  •  1,177
    Uroš replied

    Hello Espn,

    Thank you for the update on this.

    Can you please update the plugin to the latest version (6.6), test it out, and let me know if it works or not?

    The reason why the form is not visible for non-logged-in users is not in Amelia, but instead in your security settings. They're either configured in a Security plugin (if you have any), or they're on your server's side. 

    The best option would be to reach out to your hosting provider, send them the link of the booking page and tell them exactly what you told us - You can see the page when you're logged in as an admin, but you can't see it from an incognito window (or when you're logged out). They should be able to lift the block, so admin-ajax calls are sent for non-logged-in users also.


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  • Espen Klaseie replied

    Hi Uros,

    I don't think you understand my question regarding responsiveness.... are you saying the reason for the calendar not showing on a mobile phone but everything else on that page is showing has to do with my web host? That makes no sense. It is showing in a browser when I am logged in, but not on my phone when I am logged in. The calendar should show up on a mobile phone when someone is logged in.

    Nya and Espen

  • Espen Klaseie replied

    Now I have updated the Amelia plugin and I tested the booking system  yet again on the phone. i have logged in and I add the service I want to purchase and then I hit continue to get to the calendar, I tell the system not to add a person  and continue on and then I briefly see the calendar fields (as if it's set to load) where after they disappear. All I can see is the month and the year and the time zone. Please see screenshot. I doubt this has anything to do with our web host.

    Thanks.

    Nya and Espen

    Attached files:  Booking – Øvre Sukke Gård - no-calendar-showing.png

  •  1,177
    Uroš replied

    Hello Espen,

    Thank you for the update on this.

    Can you please let me know how I can reset the password as I get redirected to the homepage of your website?

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    Looking forward to your reply.


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  • Espen Klaseie replied

    I have just emailed you the new password from my email address [email protected]. I have sent it to [email protected]

    Thanks.

    Nya and Espen

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  • Espen Klaseie replied

    Hi Uros,

    Not sure why this this ticket was closed? I hope I can reopen it. You were using the wrong email to login...I wrote you a while ago, but don't see that message here. I gave you the login email address a while back in this thread, but here it is again: [email protected] .

    Now it appears that the calendar shows up on the phone. All I have done is upgrade from php 8 to 8.1 - I  am not sure if that did the trick. Also I have made an identical copy of the site on my own web server https://sukkegard.vidyawebdesign.com (different server altogether) and there all the notifications I created come up under notifications. So I am wondering if it's the server configuration that stops the notifications from working on our current server, since we can now rule out a plugin conflict. Can you please send us the configuration/requirements you recommend, then we can contact the web host and ask them for it. Thanks.

    Espen and Nya

  •  1,177
    Uroš replied

    Hello Espen,

    Thank you for reaching back out to us and for the update on this.

    We have not been aware that this could cause such issue, but we will have this tested out from our end so we can have more information on this.

    In the meantime, please let me know if you have any other questions.


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  • Espen Klaseie replied

    Hi Uros,

    Thanks for getting back to us. I mentioned two things in my previous message, can you tell me what it is you intend to investigate? We still have the issue with the notifications not working at all, is that what you are going to look into? I hope it is, now that the calendar is showing up on a cell phone I gather it was a conflict with the php version unless you went in there and fixed something. Can you please clarify? And are you able to login to the site now?

    Thanks.

    Espen and Nya

  • Espen Klaseie replied

    Hi Uros,

    We have a major issue come up. Twice now, people have overbooked the room, so the resources we set up doesn't work properly. Can you please take a look at it and make sure the settings are correct? I followed your directions and set up 6 chairs under Services/ Resources, set up 6 employees assigned all the services to them and I linked resources with all of our services. Have I linked too many things? I appreciate if you can take a look at it soon. I trust you can login in now. I gave you all the info, remember it's a different email address you use for user login.

    Thanks.

    Espen and Nya

  •  1,177
    Uroš replied

    Hello Espen,

    The issue is that I cannot reset the password on your website.

    Can you please provide me with the password on your website connected to the user with my email and I will log in and provide you with an update on this?

    Looking forward to your reply.


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    Uroš replied

    Hello Espen,

    In regards to the notification issue, I can see that you have set up a "PHP Mail' as your email service.

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    Please note: We strongly recommend changing mail service setting to SMTP because email that is sent with PHP Mail generally gets flagged as spam by mail servers and also can take some time to send. See below how to configure SMTP mail services.

    SMTP (Simple Mail Transfer Protocol) – In this article, we show how to configure the SMTP mail service for Gmail, but you can set it up for any other outgoing service that supports SMTP for a mail client. When you select this option, four inputs will appear – you need to populate them to configure SMTP properly. A Google SMTP example:

    • SMTP Host – smtp.gmail.com
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    Google SMTP (Gmail accounts):

    From 30 May 2022, Google will no longer support the use of third-party apps or devices which ask you to sign in to your Google Account using only your username and password, so “Allow less secure apps” will be removed.

    In order to continue using SMTP with Gmail, you will need to set up an App Password for Amelia. App Passwords can only be used with accounts that have 2-Step Verification turned on. Instructions about this can be found on Google’s Documentation, here.

    For detailed set-up instructions, please take a look at this article on our official support platform.

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    For detailed set-up instructions, please take a look at this article on our official support platform.

    I could not see on which date the chairs have been overbooked, can you please let me know which date it is?

    Looking forward to your reply.


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  • Espen Klaseie replied

    Hi Uros,

    Thanks for the feedback. I am glad you were able to get into the site. The date was Friday Sept 22 - 4 person group (4 hours) overlapped with another 4 person group (3 hours). I will take a look at the php mail stuff later, when I have some time, just wanted to let you know the date that was overbooked. I can't figure out why it would be overbooked, other than I can't turn off the book more than one person function, but in this case it was two group bookings so it didn't have to do with the 2 hours sessions service that I am not allowed to change settings for. On the cloned site, I am allowed to make changes to notifications and the service configuration without any issue, I think I already told you that. My conclusion is that there is something wrong with the server settings. After I changed the php version to 8.1, the calendar shows on the cell phone, but the other issues with not being able to make changes to the custom notification and the service setup didn't go away.

    Thanks.

    Nya and Espen

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    Uroš replied

    Hello Espen,

    Since the "Chair" resource is set for capacity for 6 and the "Enable Resource usage for a group booking" option is enabled that means that the capacity for this time slot is 6.

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    At the moment, only 2 slots are filled and there are another 4 slots that can be taken.

    Hope this helps you.

    Please let me know if you have any other questions.


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  • Espen Klaseie replied

    Hi Uros,

    Thanks not sure I understand what you are saying. How do we avoid that we get overbooked sessions with more than 6 chairs? Are the resources set up correctly? Something must be set up wrong and I can't figure it out.

    And I still can't turn off the functionality "Bringing anyone with you" option' - I turn it off and save it and then I go back and it's turned back on. I have tried different ways to turn it off and some times,the system just stays on Please wait and I have to refresh the page. Can it be right that I am not allowed to change a service once it is set up? Does that have to do with the chairs/resources?

    Nya and Espen

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    Uroš replied

    Hello Espen,

    Basically, the question is, how many chairs (capacity) can be booked at the same time?

    Looking forward to your reply.


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  • Espen Klaseie replied

    We have only room for 6 chairs at any time during the day hours (9 am - 5 pm). Thanks.

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    Uroš replied

    Hello Espen,

    Thank you for the update on this.

    Please test this out now and let me know if it works or not.

    Looking forward to your reply.


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  • Espen Klaseie replied

    Thanks. Can you tell us what you did please regarding the resources setup? 

    And have you figured out why we can't send out or even save notifications on our current server, but it works fine on another server I created a clone of the site on?

    Thanks.

    Nya and Espen

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    Uroš replied

    Hello Espen,

    I enabled the "Enable Resource usage for a group booking" option for resources.

    In regards to the email issue, can you please create another ticket and we will assist you with this?

    Looking forward to your reply.


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  • Espen Klaseie replied

    Dear Uros,

    Thank you for all of your help.

    We decided to use a different booking system - just too many things that weren't working properly with Amelia for our setup. How do we close this ticket? Appreciate all of your time on this. Have a wonderful work day.

    Espen and Nya

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