We got a reservation for 20. 2. 2024 16:15 - usually, the customer receives a notification and the reservation appears in our Google calendar, but nothing happened! This is critical, because without us seeing the reservation in the calendar and being notified, we might fail to serve the customers! How is that possible? Please see attached pictures (no e-mail notification happened at all)....
If the Google Calendar integration is successful, try increasing the "maximum number of events returned" in Google Calendar settings or reconnect the Google Calendar with employees. This option will increase the maximum number of events per page.
the problem is not only that the event has not appeared in the calendar (even though reservations before and after this specific reservation appeared in the calendar), the issue is that no e-mail notification was created.
I then cancelled the reservation and re-activated it again - that time, mails were generated, but still, the event did no appear in the calendar!
We already for a long time have Maximum Number Of Events Returned set to 2500 - do you suggest increasing it to an even bigger number?
No need to increase it more, the 2500 its pretty enough. Well, since this is a live site and we dont want to make changes here, can you please provide the staging site along with the WP admin credentials?
We can try to reproduce the use case on the staging site.
despite all my effort, I have not found any free solution that can easily stage our website - and we are not willing to pay additional money to help debug the system, for which we have already paid a lot of money.
Would it not be an option to copy our website somewhere to your servers, so you can play with it?
That's understandable, by my point was to test the Google Calendar integration on the staging site with our Google Calendar and also to test the notification since this is the easiest and fastest way to troubleshoot the case. If you have to make some changes, it is better to do them on the staging site than on the production site.
Creating a copy of your website is not practical and certainly, we use our local host to test the issues.
Can you confirm your WP admin credentials so we can take a look at the settings on your production site?
You can write credentials here just check PRIVATE Reply so nobody can see them except us.
Thanks again, but, unfortunatelly, i'm not able to log in. I've tried different browsers, clearing the cache/cookies, VPN, even the link that you've sent to my email. It still leads to a "pop-up" asking for the credentials. If I try to enter the credentials you've provided, it's not going through.
Apologies for the late answer. Unfortunatelly, still not able to log in. The problem is that i'm not even able to get to the WP window without loggin in through the popup.
But, let's go back to the initial problem. Are you using the SMTP procotol for mail settings? Or perhaps the third party plugin SMTP with the SMTP mail settings. In case if you use the SMTP plugin, make sure that the mail settings in Amelia are configured to WP mail. If not, then configure the SMTP settings in Amelia settings according to this instructions.
our Notification Setting has been set to WP Mail for years:
And also for years, we have been using WP Mail SMTP plugin successfully 😊
I guess the issue that ocurred could have been caused by the failure of Gmail or the SMTP plugin in the first place - but then, the event should still have been added to our calendar through Google Calendar integration - and if not, we should have been notified at least.
It seems that those features (mail notification sending, Google Calendar Integration) are missing proper error handling in Amelia - can you please review?
Thanks for the additional information. Even if i try to log in to the production site, it still asks for the creds for the popup, but I'm not able to bypass that window to get to the wp-admin page. Is there a chance to disable it temporarily?
honestly, I do not know how to fix the issue with log-in at your side - as I have mentioned in one of my previous responses, I tried to troubleshoot it but without success - please understand that it is even harder for me to fix an issue that is not happening to me (for example, I am in Austria right now and I still do not have the same issue as you...).
But if you give me any hint on what we could try, I will gladly try it...
I understand that it's hard to troubleshoot, but i still have issues to log in .I was referring to the issue of password protected page. It looks like the WP admin page has been set to page-protected, and I'm not even able to bypass the wp-admin
See if the page visibility is set to password protected and change it to public. You can find more information on this link.
thank you for the hint, but "WP Log-in Page" was never among "Posts" or "Pages" in the WP Administration, so unfortunately, this recommendation is not relevant to your issue :(
What if you try following page? https://www.nestescape.cz/wp-login.php (until now, you were trying NestEscape.cz/wp-admin, right?) Sorry I cannot try myself, as for me, NestEscape.cz/wp-admin works without the pop-up window - it immediately shows the interface of true WordPress log-in (I believe this is another sign that the login page actually is public - there just seems to be some kind of security measure that blocks some users based on some rules I do not know and I cannot find them even on Google?).
Thanks, but, whatever i try, it's still the same thing. It still asks me to enter the credentials in the popup, but they are not working, even with the VPN or incognito tab or a different browser. Looks like we would have to do troubleshooting in a harder way (checking things one by one)
So, if the configuration (WP mail + SMTP) is configured properly, you should be receiving the notifications for each appointment (depending on the booking status). If there is a chance, can you create a test appointment and check if you receive the booking notifications?
Also, please check if there are any errors in the employee settings. Usually, when the employee is connected to the Google Calendar, the error "unable to connect to Google Calendar" pops up, if something is wrong with the sync.
I am sorry about that, but unfortunately I have no idea how to fix the issue with log-in 😥
As for the setting, everything seems to work for about ~3 years we have been using Amelia - and we get about 100 bookings each month - I created this ticket based on a single failure. In total, we have took care of thousands of Amelia bookings...
As far as we are aware, the issue occurred only with 20. 2. 2024 16:15 reservation - so I am completely sure this is not about setting, this must have been due to some service outage (probably issue with Google servers, so Gmail and Google Calendar did not respond?) - in any case, it is not acceptable, that the attempt to send notification and put the event to the Calendar was not re-tried by Amelia or that we were not notified otherwise about this issue, for example by a mail directly from Amelia....
Unforunatelly, I've tried all the options i could, also, my colleagues were not able to log in, so I assume it's some sort of protection.
Since this is happening sporadically (not every time), it would be hard to replicate, especially if the configuration is correct. I wanted to give it a few tests, but, unfortunatelly, i could not log in, as already mentioned. I guess this is related to the Google Server connection or hosting provider, as you said.
Currently, Amelia doesn't have any advanced "error handling" feature, we troubleshoot the issues manually, through the browser web consoles. Usually, when there are issues with the Google Calendar, it is enough for us to see the issue through the console.
Certainly, i will forward this information to the developers, but, currently, Amelia doesn't have the "system" that will re-try to send the message or inform about the Google outage.
from my point of view, I do not think it is acceptable that when something goes wrong with the reservation notification or with Google Calendar connection, it is not properly handled - this way, it can happen that the customer thinks he booked a game, the Amelia interface in the browser tells him exactly that, but we are not aware at all... Therefore later, the customer comes to us and there might not be anyone available to serve him/her...
That's completely understandable, but, unfortunatelly, at this moment, there is nothing that can be done regarding the "sending a mail when there is an issue with the Google Calendar". The only thing that i can do for now is forward this to the developers so they can put this on their planning list. You can monitor the situation further and let us know if it happens with each booking, not just sporadically.
I understand and agree, but, unfortunatelly, we can't change anything at this moment. As i said, i've forwarded this to the developers already to let them know.
We got a reservation for 20. 2. 2024 16:15 - usually, the customer receives a notification and the reservation appears in our Google calendar, but nothing happened! This is critical, because without us seeing the reservation in the calendar and being notified, we might fail to serve the customers! How is that possible? Please see attached pictures (no e-mail notification happened at all)....
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Hello Tomáš,
Thanks for reaching out to us.
If the Google Calendar integration is successful, try increasing the "maximum number of events returned" in Google Calendar settings or reconnect the Google Calendar with employees. This option will increase the maximum number of events per page.
Let me know if it works.
Kind Regards,
Stefan Petrov
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Hello Stefan,
the problem is not only that the event has not appeared in the calendar (even though reservations before and after this specific reservation appeared in the calendar), the issue is that no e-mail notification was created.
I then cancelled the reservation and re-activated it again - that time, mails were generated, but still, the event did no appear in the calendar!
We already for a long time have Maximum Number Of Events Returned set to 2500 - do you suggest increasing it to an even bigger number?
Tomáš
Hello Tomáš,
No need to increase it more, the 2500 its pretty enough. Well, since this is a live site and we dont want to make changes here, can you please provide the staging site along with the WP admin credentials?
We can try to reproduce the use case on the staging site.
Thanks. Looking forward to your reply.
Kind Regards,
Stefan Petrov
[email protected]
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Hello Stefan,
despite all my effort, I have not found any free solution that can easily stage our website - and we are not willing to pay additional money to help debug the system, for which we have already paid a lot of money.
Would it not be an option to copy our website somewhere to your servers, so you can play with it?
Tomáš
Hello Tomáš,
That's understandable, by my point was to test the Google Calendar integration on the staging site with our Google Calendar and also to test the notification since this is the easiest and fastest way to troubleshoot the case. If you have to make some changes, it is better to do them on the staging site than on the production site.
Creating a copy of your website is not practical and certainly, we use our local host to test the issues.
Can you confirm your WP admin credentials so we can take a look at the settings on your production site?
You can write credentials here just check PRIVATE Reply so nobody can see them except us.
Kind Regards,
Stefan Petrov
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Hello Tomáš,
Thanks for the credentials, but, unfortunatelly, i'm not able to log in with these credentials. Not on the pop-up and not on the wp-admin page.
Would you mind double checking and sending them again?
Kind Regards,
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Hello Tomáš,
Thanks again, but, unfortunatelly, i'm not able to log in. I've tried different browsers, clearing the cache/cookies, VPN, even the link that you've sent to my email. It still leads to a "pop-up" asking for the credentials. If I try to enter the credentials you've provided, it's not going through.
Kind Regards,
Stefan Petrov
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Hello Tomáš,
Apologies for the late answer. Unfortunatelly, still not able to log in. The problem is that i'm not even able to get to the WP window without loggin in through the popup.
But, let's go back to the initial problem. Are you using the SMTP procotol for mail settings? Or perhaps the third party plugin SMTP with the SMTP mail settings. In case if you use the SMTP plugin, make sure that the mail settings in Amelia are configured to WP mail. If not, then configure the SMTP settings in Amelia settings according to this instructions.
Kind Regards,
Stefan Petrov
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Hello Stefan,
our Notification Setting has been set to WP Mail for years:
And also for years, we have been using WP Mail SMTP plugin successfully 😊
I guess the issue that ocurred could have been caused by the failure of Gmail or the SMTP plugin in the first place - but then, the event should still have been added to our calendar through Google Calendar integration - and if not, we should have been notified at least.
It seems that those features (mail notification sending, Google Calendar Integration) are missing proper error handling in Amelia - can you please review?
Tomáš
Hello Tomáš,
Thanks for the additional information. Even if i try to log in to the production site, it still asks for the creds for the popup, but I'm not able to bypass that window to get to the wp-admin page. Is there a chance to disable it temporarily?
Kind Regards,
Stefan Petrov
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Stefan,
honestly, I do not know how to fix the issue with log-in at your side - as I have mentioned in one of my previous responses, I tried to troubleshoot it but without success - please understand that it is even harder for me to fix an issue that is not happening to me (for example, I am in Austria right now and I still do not have the same issue as you...).
But if you give me any hint on what we could try, I will gladly try it...
Tomáš
Hello Tomáš,
Apologies for the delayed answer.
I understand that it's hard to troubleshoot, but i still have issues to log in .I was referring to the issue of password protected page. It looks like the WP admin page has been set to page-protected, and I'm not even able to bypass the wp-admin
See if the page visibility is set to password protected and change it to public. You can find more information on this link.
Kind Regards,
Stefan Petrov
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Hello Stefan,
thank you for the hint, but "WP Log-in Page" was never among "Posts" or "Pages" in the WP Administration, so unfortunately, this recommendation is not relevant to your issue :(
What if you try following page? https://www.nestescape.cz/wp-login.php (until now, you were trying NestEscape.cz/wp-admin, right?) Sorry I cannot try myself, as for me, NestEscape.cz/wp-admin works without the pop-up window - it immediately shows the interface of true WordPress log-in (I believe this is another sign that the login page actually is public - there just seems to be some kind of security measure that blocks some users based on some rules I do not know and I cannot find them even on Google?).
Tomáš
Hello Tomáš,
Thanks, but, whatever i try, it's still the same thing. It still asks me to enter the credentials in the popup, but they are not working, even with the VPN or incognito tab or a different browser. Looks like we would have to do troubleshooting in a harder way (checking things one by one)
So, if the configuration (WP mail + SMTP) is configured properly, you should be receiving the notifications for each appointment (depending on the booking status). If there is a chance, can you create a test appointment and check if you receive the booking notifications?
Also, please check if there are any errors in the employee settings. Usually, when the employee is connected to the Google Calendar, the error "unable to connect to Google Calendar" pops up, if something is wrong with the sync.
Kind Regards,
Stefan Petrov
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Hello Stefan,
I am sorry about that, but unfortunately I have no idea how to fix the issue with log-in 😥
As for the setting, everything seems to work for about ~3 years we have been using Amelia - and we get about 100 bookings each month - I created this ticket based on a single failure. In total, we have took care of thousands of Amelia bookings...
As far as we are aware, the issue occurred only with 20. 2. 2024 16:15 reservation - so I am completely sure this is not about setting, this must have been due to some service outage (probably issue with Google servers, so Gmail and Google Calendar did not respond?) - in any case, it is not acceptable, that the attempt to send notification and put the event to the Calendar was not re-tried by Amelia or that we were not notified otherwise about this issue, for example by a mail directly from Amelia....
Please fix this...
Tomáš
Hello Tomáš,
Unforunatelly, I've tried all the options i could, also, my colleagues were not able to log in, so I assume it's some sort of protection.
Since this is happening sporadically (not every time), it would be hard to replicate, especially if the configuration is correct. I wanted to give it a few tests, but, unfortunatelly, i could not log in, as already mentioned. I guess this is related to the Google Server connection or hosting provider, as you said.
Currently, Amelia doesn't have any advanced "error handling" feature, we troubleshoot the issues manually, through the browser web consoles. Usually, when there are issues with the Google Calendar, it is enough for us to see the issue through the console.
Certainly, i will forward this information to the developers, but, currently, Amelia doesn't have the "system" that will re-try to send the message or inform about the Google outage.
Kind Regards,
Stefan Petrov
[email protected]
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Hello Stefan,
from my point of view, I do not think it is acceptable that when something goes wrong with the reservation notification or with Google Calendar connection, it is not properly handled - this way, it can happen that the customer thinks he booked a game, the Amelia interface in the browser tells him exactly that, but we are not aware at all... Therefore later, the customer comes to us and there might not be anyone available to serve him/her...
Tomáš
Hello Tomáš,
That's completely understandable, but, unfortunatelly, at this moment, there is nothing that can be done regarding the "sending a mail when there is an issue with the Google Calendar". The only thing that i can do for now is forward this to the developers so they can put this on their planning list. You can monitor the situation further and let us know if it happens with each booking, not just sporadically.
Kind Regards,
Stefan Petrov
[email protected]
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Hello Stefan,
this is happening just sporadically fortunately... Still, it is causing huge trouble whenever this happens...
Tomáš
Hello Tomás,
I understand and agree, but, unfortunatelly, we can't change anything at this moment. As i said, i've forwarded this to the developers already to let them know.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Kind Regards,
Stefan Petrov
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