Hi, I just noticed that when creating an event that has a day that passes our Swedish Daylight savings time (Summer time in Swedish) adding the correct time in Amelia creates a time in Google Calendar that is one hour later.
In this case the event starts at 18.30 April 4 and in Google Calendar it says 19.30
Amelia doesn't have any time zone settings, and it relies on WordPress' General settings. Here's how it works:
All times in the back-end of Amelia will be shown exactly how you save them, so (for example) if your employee works from 09:00 - 17:00, or if there's an appointment from 09:00 - 10:00, that's how you will see them in the back-end.
If you enable "Show booking slots in client time zone" in Amelia's General settings, though, that may not be what your customers see, depending on where they're located, and to what your WordPress site has been configured.
If this option in Amelia's General settings is disabled, all times on the front-end will be the same as times in the back-end. So, if your employee's work hours are from 09:00 - 17:00 in UTC+1, with this option disabled, regardless if your customer is in UTC+1, or in UTC+10 - they will still see times from 09:00 - 17:00, so if you have customers in multiple time zones, it's advisable to enable this option in Amelia's General Settings.
Important: In order for Amelia to store correct appointment times in the database (which is almost always in UTC time zone), you need to edit the WordPress' time zone to show the city you're in (or the city in your time zone), like this:
This way, when Daylight Savings Time starts (or ends), the times will be adjusted accordingly and you won't have to worry about them anymore.
If you save your Time Zone in UTC+/- format, you may experience issues with the Daylight Savings Time:
Explanation: When you configure the time zone to be "UTC+1" it will always be UTC+1. So, if we take Belgrade, Serbia as an example - without Daylight Savings Time, it is in UTC+1 time zone, but when Daylight Savings Time starts, Belgrade is in UTC+2. If you leave the time zone to be hard-coded to UTC+1, the times that your customers book on the front-end will not be properly adjusted to what you see in the back-end.
Example with UTC+1 configured: It is mid-summer, and Belgrade is in UTC+2. "Show booking slots in client time zone" is enabled, and a customer from Belgrade opens your website to book an appointment. The working hours of your employee are set from 09:00 - 17:00 (in UTC+1), but the customer sees them as 10:00 - 18:00. This is because the time zone is hard-coded in the back-end, while on the front-end it shows the time in UTC+2. So, a customer books an appointment for 10:00, and shows up at 10:00, while you expect to see them at 09:00.
Please note: If you hard-coded the time zone, and you have booked appointments, once you switch the time zone in WordPress to your city, it will adjust the times in Amelia's appointments to fit the time zone your city is currently in. This happens because (as mentioned above) the times are saved in UTC in the database, and it's adjusted in the plugin programmatically. So, if you have a hard-coded time zone set to UTC+1, and someone booked an appointment for 09:00, that time is saved as 08:00 in the database. When you change the time zone to your city (which is now in UTC+2), the appointment time will be adjusted to the time saved in the database 08:00 + 2:00, so the appointment time will switch to 10:00. The only solution, in this case, is to manually modify the appointment times, but it's the only way to make sure your time zone is properly configured, and that the future appointments will be saved and displayed correctly both for you and your customers on the front-end.
Summary: When you select the city you're in, in WordPress' General Settings, the system automatically calculates the Daylight Savings Time, and shifts the clock accordingly, so if you have any issues with what you see on the front-end vs what you see in the back-end, always check the Time Zone in WordPress
Thank you for the answer. It looks good now until I get a reservation, then the mail that goes out to the client looks like this (including screenshots on how it looks in the backend and front end of the page as well).
Note that I had put the time as 1730 for the dates after 26th of March but that it has automatically changed to 18.30
On your screenshots we can only see that you have set everything up to 18.30 but please provide me a temporary WP-admin (administrator) user for your site where this happens, so we could log in and take a look ‘from the inside’ as that’s the most efficient way to see and resolve the issue.
We do not interfere with any data or anything else except for the plugin (in case that’s a production version of the site), and of course, we do not provide login data to third parties.
You can write credentials here just check PRIVATE Reply so nobody can see them except us.
We went on your site and we did not see any issues in the back and on the front. We changed the time for the events on the back and those times reflect the times that were shown on the front
As far as we can see everything is fine. If misunderstood the issue we apologize and in that case please send us a short one-minute video if the issue so that we can understand it better.
Hi Marko, Unfortunately we are spamming my clients with the information about time changes.
The issue now is not what Amelia shows but what it says in the receipt that woocommerce creates as seen in the screenshot. I don't know where either Amelia or WooCommerce picks up the client time, but I'm quite sure that Woocommerce does not put down the client time by itself, so it has to come from you.
I would suggest that you set up the "Set MetaData and Description" and add the time of the event there whatever it is set in this field will be displayed in the receipt.
This option is displayed on the Amelia/Settings/Payments page.
Hi, I just noticed that when creating an event that has a day that passes our Swedish Daylight savings time (Summer time in Swedish) adding the correct time in Amelia creates a time in Google Calendar that is one hour later.
In this case the event starts at 18.30 April 4 and in Google Calendar it says 19.30
Is there a fix for this?
Hello Jonas,
Thank you for reaching out to us.
Amelia doesn't have any time zone settings, and it relies on WordPress' General settings. Here's how it works:
All times in the back-end of Amelia will be shown exactly how you save them, so (for example) if your employee works from 09:00 - 17:00, or if there's an appointment from 09:00 - 10:00, that's how you will see them in the back-end.
If you enable "Show booking slots in client time zone" in Amelia's General settings, though, that may not be what your customers see, depending on where they're located, and to what your WordPress site has been configured.
If this option in Amelia's General settings is disabled, all times on the front-end will be the same as times in the back-end. So, if your employee's work hours are from 09:00 - 17:00 in UTC+1, with this option disabled, regardless if your customer is in UTC+1, or in UTC+10 - they will still see times from 09:00 - 17:00, so if you have customers in multiple time zones, it's advisable to enable this option in Amelia's General Settings.
Important: In order for Amelia to store correct appointment times in the database (which is almost always in UTC time zone), you need to edit the WordPress' time zone to show the city you're in (or the city in your time zone), like this:
This way, when Daylight Savings Time starts (or ends), the times will be adjusted accordingly and you won't have to worry about them anymore.
If you save your Time Zone in UTC+/- format, you may experience issues with the Daylight Savings Time:
Explanation: When you configure the time zone to be "UTC+1" it will always be UTC+1. So, if we take Belgrade, Serbia as an example - without Daylight Savings Time, it is in UTC+1 time zone, but when Daylight Savings Time starts, Belgrade is in UTC+2. If you leave the time zone to be hard-coded to UTC+1, the times that your customers book on the front-end will not be properly adjusted to what you see in the back-end.
Example with UTC+1 configured: It is mid-summer, and Belgrade is in UTC+2. "Show booking slots in client time zone" is enabled, and a customer from Belgrade opens your website to book an appointment. The working hours of your employee are set from 09:00 - 17:00 (in UTC+1), but the customer sees them as 10:00 - 18:00. This is because the time zone is hard-coded in the back-end, while on the front-end it shows the time in UTC+2. So, a customer books an appointment for 10:00, and shows up at 10:00, while you expect to see them at 09:00.
Please note: If you hard-coded the time zone, and you have booked appointments, once you switch the time zone in WordPress to your city, it will adjust the times in Amelia's appointments to fit the time zone your city is currently in. This happens because (as mentioned above) the times are saved in UTC in the database, and it's adjusted in the plugin programmatically. So, if you have a hard-coded time zone set to UTC+1, and someone booked an appointment for 09:00, that time is saved as 08:00 in the database. When you change the time zone to your city (which is now in UTC+2), the appointment time will be adjusted to the time saved in the database 08:00 + 2:00, so the appointment time will switch to 10:00. The only solution, in this case, is to manually modify the appointment times, but it's the only way to make sure your time zone is properly configured, and that the future appointments will be saved and displayed correctly both for you and your customers on the front-end.
Summary: When you select the city you're in, in WordPress' General Settings, the system automatically calculates the Daylight Savings Time, and shifts the clock accordingly, so if you have any issues with what you see on the front-end vs what you see in the back-end, always check the Time Zone in WordPress
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Marko Davidovic [email protected]
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Thank you for the answer. It looks good now until I get a reservation, then the mail that goes out to the client looks like this (including screenshots on how it looks in the backend and front end of the page as well).
Note that I had put the time as 1730 for the dates after 26th of March but that it has automatically changed to 18.30
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Skärmklipp 2023-02-20 16.12.54.png
Hello Jonas,
On your screenshots we can only see that you have set everything up to 18.30 but please provide me a temporary WP-admin (administrator) user for your site where this happens, so we could log in and take a look ‘from the inside’ as that’s the most efficient way to see and resolve the issue.
We do not interfere with any data or anything else except for the plugin (in case that’s a production version of the site), and of course, we do not provide login data to third parties.
You can write credentials here just check PRIVATE Reply so nobody can see them except us.
Looking forward to your reply.
Kind Regards,
Marko Davidovic [email protected]
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Hello Jonas,
We went on your site and we did not see any issues in the back and on the front. We changed the time for the events on the back and those times reflect the times that were shown on the front
As far as we can see everything is fine. If misunderstood the issue we apologize and in that case please send us a short one-minute video if the issue so that we can understand it better.
Looking forward to your reply.
Kind Regards,
Marko Davidovic [email protected]
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Hello Jonas,
We forgot to send the notifications for that events. When we changed the time to 17.30 we got the correct information in the notifications
We wish you all the best.
Kind Regards,
Marko Davidovic [email protected]
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Hi Marko, Unfortunately we are spamming my clients with the information about time changes.
The issue now is not what Amelia shows but what it says in the receipt that woocommerce creates as seen in the screenshot. I don't know where either Amelia or WooCommerce picks up the client time, but I'm quite sure that Woocommerce does not put down the client time by itself, so it has to come from you.
Attached files: Skärmklipp 2023-02-20 16.12.54.png
Hello Jonas,
We have forwarded your ticket to our level 2 agents and as soon as we get some feedback from them we will contact you immediately.
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Marko Davidovic [email protected]
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Hello Jonas,
I would suggest that you set up the "Set MetaData and Description" and add the time of the event there whatever it is set in this field will be displayed in the receipt.
This option is displayed on the Amelia/Settings/Payments page.
Please let me know if that works for you.
Kind Regards,
Uros Jovanovic
[email protected]
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